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Racism

Postby VacantEagle » 03 Jul 2015, 04:27

I was playing on the US #1 server and someone put this http://i.imgur.com/nbSHr4q.png?1 on a truck.

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Re: Racism

Postby Schadler17 » 03 Jul 2015, 05:17

The swastika isn't racist. Just so you know.
Its just widely known for its use as the Nazi Flag.

Because of its use by Nazi Germany, the swastika since the 1930s has been largely associated with Nazism and white supremacy in most Western countries.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika# ... _of_Nazism
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Re: Racism

Postby Alan » 03 Jul 2015, 07:29

Yeah, guys if they are using this to be racist or controversial then they are getting the reaction they want. Just stop talking about it and ignore it.

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Re: Racism

Postby Stacktrace » 03 Jul 2015, 08:43

I strongly disagree. This obviously is griefing and should be treated as such.

The use of the swastika is a criminal offence punishable by law in many countries, don't forget that. I don't understand why this should be ignored (especially it obviously is the swastika used by Nazis) and the use of "ni****" is not alright - after all it's just a misspelling of Niger, right?
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Re: Racism

Postby hiddengearz » 03 Jul 2015, 13:43

Stacktrace wrote:I strongly disagree. This obviously is griefing and should be treated as such.

The use of the swastika is a criminal offence punishable by law in many countries, don't forget that. I don't understand why this should be ignored (especially it obviously is the swastika used by Nazis) and the use of "ni****" is not alright - after all it's just a misspelling of Niger, right?


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Re: Racism

Postby Gunther.S » 03 Jul 2015, 14:26

Because we are not the world police here at TacBF and the fact that it is not illegal to use the swastica in many other contries especially as the player 'zero' was using it (in a wwii milsim unit). Means that we will give the benefit of the doubt. The TacBF server is ment to be neutral grounds a free grounds type place. I dont wish to jump into politics and say one country is right for allowing the display of the historical swastika used and the other country is wrong ect.

The next thing that will come up after that is the ban of the confederate flag because it is 'racist' towards blacks.. When really that isnt true at all.

If a player is intentional racist then they will be delt with. The simple problem is different cultures have different interpretation of what is racist. There is no way around that I think.

I think its fairly easy to say the use of the word "ni****" used in english is usually used in a racist form so thats easy to just kick/ban people based off of that. But keep in mind here in brazil (using the translation) it is actually considered wrong to call a black person 'black', instead we are supposed to use 'ni****' for describing a persons ethnic background. So this does take a little bit of consideration by the admin. Still, needs to be warn/kick/ban method.
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Re: Racism

Postby galactic » 04 Jul 2015, 11:56

[youtube]https://youtu.be/rXmE1MgAXzU[/youtube]

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Re: Racism

Postby Marko Bolneze » 04 Jul 2015, 15:07

This is not good

This is not only a swastika this is the nazi flag, i have seen people kicked/ban for a lot less than that.

If he really want to use a german flag for wwii milsim unit, he need to use that who are (i think) the "war flag" but is not very cool too.

Other are only explicit symbol of third Reich or National socialism and its very bad recall !

He can have the benefit of the doubt (about what?) but i personally dont want to see nazi flag, i don't care about illegal or not in countries( on internet who care?) but it can be a problems today again, so don't show this flag please.

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Re: Racism

Postby akm » 04 Jul 2015, 16:27

if I was to decide id give permanent ban for that stuff. it is extremely offending to me personally and to many many people who lost their relatives in war as result of nazi war crimes both against civilians and military. but people who do this stuff are mostly kids but there is still stuff that you shouldnt try to joke about.

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Re: Racism

Postby Schadler17 » 04 Jul 2015, 16:57

Then we should ban all flags from being used on the server.

I take offense to the American flag, because the american people killed off the native american people and took their land from them and slaughtered men, women and children to do so and imposed their will upon them.
I take offense to the confederate flag, because confederates were pro-slavery and I have black friends.
I take offense to the Russian Flag because they're currently engaged in a proxy war with Ukraine, killing civilians and government soldiers alike.
Should I go on?

Theres plenty of reasons you could say your against a flag, but in the end, its freedom of expression.
You might be offended by it for certain reasons, but he might not support that flag for them reasons.
Saying that is like saying all because I wear a confederate flag, I hate all blacks and want them as slaves. But my reasoning behind wearing that flag is simply because I supported the confederate government based on where I lived during the time and other values that they stood for.
(No I do not support the confederate flag, but again, I'm not bi*** about it because its apart of history and deserves to be remembered as such)

TL;DR: If you don't like it, don't pay attention to it. If he's doing it to intentionally upset you, making threads like this is basically saying he won. Be the bigger person and ignore s*** that you don't like. Now if he goes IG saying racist/sexist s*** towards players, then feel free to take action. But until then, its a flag. If you don't like it, ignore it.
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